7 months of silence
It’s been 7 months now that we talked about the Philippine Bolunteers Award. I called it such because to me, they have not provided us and Pinoy blogosphere any sense of comfort nor even respond to some of the questions raised. Not even a statement to address some of the valid questions raised by GameOps. And if you think ang pagkakamaling to will just be forgotten by Reyna like one ugly bangungot and move on like nuttin’ happened? Nevah. If it was wrong, it has to be corrected, so you as an organization can earn your credentials and move on to the future. One should neva evah just sipa the past and think that everything is happy altogethah ever in pinoy bloggie wonderland because, things must change for the better for the past to be forgotten.
Forget the past?!
Did the organizers of that award made any statement to respond to some of the questions? Uh-ah (one waggling fingah!) Have they updated the site to include volunteers? Uh-ah (two waggling fingahs!) It seems to me that they want us to forget the past as if nothing happened!
The importance of April 15
Interestingly, dumaan na ang April 15 – if you’re in my type of industry, knowing mo na yun divanetch? What am I talking about? Well, it’s one of those things that organizations have to do para meron silang sorta “good manners and right conduct“. Read on and I will tell you
The Volunteer Issue
I remember how that heated discussion brought Manuel L. Quezon III to weigh in and he said:
“Since two CPA’s have weighed in, and since I know of one CPA who had to work three days without sleep on the collaterals for the awards ceremony, then what this calls for is even more volunteerism. It would be a great help to the organizers, the judges, any volunteers (if there will be any, after this year) and bloggers who think the awards are a good thing, if Cat and Reyna come up with an awards code of ethics for consideration by the PBA as well as volunteering to serve as a team to set up a nominations, vetting, judging, tabulation, and accounting process for next year’s awards.”
Comment number 35: http://reynaelena.com/2008/09/28/whats-the-deal-with-volunteers-winning-pba-awards/
The Invite
Cat declined the invite whereas the pretty egocentric self-centered Reyna (woohoo!!!) waited for the invite. Nothing came. Leche! Namuti mata ko sa kakaintay! The last time I checked, naka-high heels na ang lecheng postmaster! Grrr! So, let’s just pretend that it will come, because by then I will have my gowns ready for my acceptance speech. But you see, there is a problem. I have certain standards that I follow. Hallerr! Kelangan sagutin mo nang matino ang final Miss Universe kestyon! Hahaha! So, I want to make sure that this awards body sizes up to my expectations. Hindi na kamo Barrio Siete and standards ko! Upgraded na sya! Hahaha!
Unattended site
I recently visited the site to check the latest and I was surprised at how it was left behind unattended. I did not see any listing of last years volunteers. (I made screen captures just in case biglang nag-edit! Hahaha!)
Not-for-profit Financial Statements
Korak me if I am wrong, but getz ko that some non-profit company ata is behind this awards giving chorva. I’m a hungry CPA and have been involved in so may audit and FS presentation assignments so, fully aware ang lola kung pano ang arrive nang financial statements for non-profit. I still manage several non-profit companies under my portfolio of responsibilities right now.
How do they account for those items?
These corporate sponsors should be happy with me because I am protecting them! Kaya they better hire me hahaha! I got credentials, divanetch? At na-check na sya! Ngak! Ngak! Ngak! Charing! Hehehe! Kaya, taka ako when I saw so many sponsors listed! I was curious… how was cash comin in treated on the financial statements? And what about those items na gibsung nung sponsors? In udra wurds, how were those items received from the sponsors treated? What about expenses? Di ba? Trust me on this one, some of these corporate sponsors have certain budget on those prizes at once gibsung nila yon? Expenses na sila on their part at wez na sila kestyon evah how and in wat manner they evaporated! Hahaha! Why do I know? Well, I heard that some people have copies of my resume. Check ninyo, I’ve worked for the broadcast industry in the United States for many, many years (16+?) and I’ve dealt with advertisers and sponsors a lot! Nah, that’s wrong. All the time! Hahaha!
The inquisitive hungry CPA’s mind
Kaya, blame the inquisitive hungry CPA’s mind. But you see, I don’t know much about non-profit companies reporting requirements no more, as far as SEC, BIR or DTI are concerned. Matagal na po akong nawala sa Pinas eh. What I remember noon was that, if your total assets is like, P25,000 or sum’tin, you are required to file an audited financial statements kasama nung tax return. The peso number might have changed altogether na siguro. I don’t know. Can someone update me on this one please?
Transparency, accountability and responsibility
But my point is this: If I will accept my name to be attached to the name of some awards body? They better right the wrong and be sure that they post some informative financial statements or compliance reports of this non-profit company on that website for us to see and understand how they manage funds. Kiver even if they DON’T send an invite. After all these financial statements helps create the organizations credentials and informs the reader, especially us in Pinoy blogoshere how and what they’re doing. This is about the organizations credibility, transparency, accountability and responsibility. They have a social responsibility to be transparent to us citizens of Pinoy bloggie wonderland.
Recognize? Or Harvest?
Kaya tuloy, it makes me wonder baka me mga ibang bloggers out there na humarbat den nang mga corporate sponsors at forget at isantabi lang ang social responsibility. Alam mo yon? Sometimes, you have no more idea kung ano ba talaga ever ang reason for da behind and da becoz? Recognize sum’tin? Or harvest sum’tin?
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baka BOTH. sarap kayang maging RICH and FAMOUS hahaha.
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:49 am
hahaha or could be on a pretext of sum’tin hahaha like recognize the best or harvest the sponsors hahaha
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Snow Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Hay totoo kayo dyan mga ka-bloggers, marami talagang mahilig sa fame and fortune!
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sali ako ulet ako Reyns, Audited FS by a CPA is required by BIR to be attached in the filing of annual ITR if the gross quarterly sales, earnings, receipts and outputs exceed P150K. Kaya lagi ako tumatambay dito sa blog mo kasi relate na relate akosa language mo professionally pati na din ang local dialect mo dahil tiga sorsogon din ang nanay ko at ka alumni ko si Silver, thats why i feel at home here..
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lani Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 5:29 am
And if you were asking tax on non profit org, exempted sila from taxes as long ang receipts nila ay galing sa contribution, donations and grants. SEC ang registration body nila sa mga non stock non profit org. Required silang mag submit ng gis ang audited FS, u can refer to the corporation code natin to know more of their compliance requirements at anu anu ang mga dapat at hindi dapat.
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Silver, PhD Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Eeeeekkkkkkk
Baka ikaw yung seatmate ko dati…
LOL.
Heheh.
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:51 am
ganun na ba ang rule? over $150k = audited FS? hmmm
anyway, welcome sa palasyo! tatao ka pa tabi mag-biko.?
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Ooops! Php150k!
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Reesie Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
haha, sanay na talaga ang lola sa dolyares.. hehe
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Ateng naman, ni credentials nga walang maipakita ang mga tupperware na yan, credibility pa kaya? Tokneneng at buknoy na lang hanapin natin sa kanila, baka sakaling meron, HAHAHAHA!
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Silver, PhD Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Dr. Kutz,
Baka di tupperware, OROCAN na lang.
LOL.
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:57 am
@kutz,
well that’s the thing about credentials nila. iba naman ang “credentials” nang isang organization. kaya ang tanong ko eh pang-ibabaw lang ba kaya yang mga recognize the best chorva over some of what they get kung walang maipakitang mga financial statement? hahaha kelangan nakabalandra yun sa site nila!
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Are you sure of this information? Was there already a change of the reporting requirements of the stock and non-stock corporations since February 2008?
I just want to be sure.
Audited financial statements are not only based on Gross Recepits or sales or output because definitely, NPO would not have such statistics.
As of 2008, financial statements audited by external auditor register with the Board of Accountancy are required for the ff:\
1. stock corporations with paid-up capital of PhP50,000.00 or more;
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a.2. non-stock corporations with annual gross receipts of PhP100:000.00 or
more, or total assets of PhP500.000 or more;
a.3. branch office with assigned capital of PhP50,000 or more:
a.4. branch office of non-stock foreign corporation with total assets of
PhP500,000 or more; ‘
a.5. representative office with total assets of PhP500,000 or moré
At the minimum, the following statements shall be certified under’oath by the
treasurer of the corporation: *
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b.l. stock corporations with paid-up capital of less than PhP50,000.00;
b.2. non-stock corporations with ^ annual gross receipts of less than
PhP100,000.00 or total assets of less than PhP500,000.00; ¡
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b.3. stock branch office with assigned capital of less than PhP50,000.00;
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b.4. non-stock branch office with total assets of less than PhP500,000.00;
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b.5. representative office with total assets of less than PhP500.000.00.
So of reynz ‘ question is, are they required to file these reports, I say yes to maintain their good standing.
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
@Cat,
That was good info Cat, meaning mali ang reference na P150k and mas paniniwalaan ko ata to kasi this is similar naman dito di ba?
Here, me mga State filing requirements pa na tinatawag na Information Returns kahit na walang receipts, eh mas lalo nang malaki yong activity nung non-profit nang Blog Awards given nung activities nila. So, malaki ang duda ko na required sila.
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The Ca t Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
reynz,
it is certain that npos are required to submit these requirements
to the SEC 105 days after the fiscal period.
the fs may not be audited because of the amount involved
but the filing requirements is still there,.
why do they have to file?
if you are solicited with donations, don’t you like to see
if it is a fly-by-night operations or can ou claim your donations
as tax deductible.
donations that go to certain organizations not necessarily
NGOs can deduct their donations from gross income.
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
so, parehas sya nung state requirements dito? although mas matindi of course dahil yung sinabi ko sa taas, unless na di ka na-award exemption, yari ka pa rin.
my point in this – kaya dapat lang na post nila ang mga information na to is that, nag-e-evolve ang Pinoy Blogosphere and it’s going to be one very important medium and we do not want to alienate corporate sponsors and advertisers dahil nga sa mga instances na to.
kaya sabi ko seyo, lahat nang mga corporate sponsors na yan, hire ako eh hahaha
the non-profit, non-stock corporations are required to file the ff. reports:
1. balance sheet if they have assets but of course they will have cash or items taht were donated and were not expensed, these are considered assets.
2. profit and loss for stock corporations are substituted by statement of activities of the non-stock and non-proft corps.
3. statement of cash flows.
4. statement of changes in equity. since there is no stock and no income retained, the equity here is the difference between the received donations less the disbursements of the npos.
the accountability is to show where all the donations went,
these reports are for public consumption even in the Philippine business environment.
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
hahahaha! these are the reports i’d like to see at interesado ako talaga makita how those were reported hahaha, i mean, pano kaya na-disburse yong mga donations?
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bigatin ka pala reyna!hehe ang taray ng credentials ant nag work ka pa sa broadcasting company sa US wow impressive! Idol!
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
@maccallister, ka naman! hahaha hindi naman follow na jazz becoz i work sa broadcast industry eh heavyweight na ang lola hehehe mas marami pang Pinoy Americans na mas makinang ang resume kesa saken hahaha pero salamat!
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i second maccallister. and never never change despite the puny anti-reyna sentiments out there. idol!
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
@PDI, hehehe i think I asked them naman kung ano ang mali so I could effect some changes, wala naman pala eh hahaha, so if i’m not broken, wez ko knowing kung bat ko kelangan nang kuritaz
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@lani,
generally ganun naman di ba? once na non-profit ka wa ka taxes to pay. kaso you have to follow certain reporting requirements gaya dito sa US, kahit na non-profit ka at di mo nakuha ang tinatawag na Form 501-C3, file at bayad ka pa rin hangga’t di ka na-a-award nun. kaya i was looking for similar regulation dahil di sya basta basta – although – alam mo naman saten noh? hahaha
now, considering na ganun kahaba ang sponsors, of course ang assumption ko, baka lagpas pa nang Php150k sya, korak?
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lani Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 1:56 am
Reynz,
These non profit orgs ay dapat may accredition sa Dept of Finance, pre requisite iyon para maregister sila sa BIR para maging qualified donee institution para naman ang kanilang donors ay makapag deduct partially or fully (depende sa nature of donation) sa kanilang income taxes.. Hala, nakapag basa tuloy ako bigla ng mga BIR memos, issuances at regulations..
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mamu, ang pagkakaalam ko, hindi kasi kasing-higpit or kasing-vigilant ang BIR di tulad ng IRS sa jameyrika. I think limitation na rin kasi ng computer system nila. kaya minsan mahirap mag-monitor, most specially kung wit naman malaking name ang bibigyan nila ng time na i-monitor.
we hear of richard gomez or some famous person na hinahabol ng bir kasi may pangalan sila. pero kung hindi ka kayaman o hindi kalakihang kumpanya or org, mukhang di agad makikita yun.
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
@ate sienna,
which means malaki ang chances to “harvest the sponsors” kesa sa “recognizing the best” hahahaha! that is of course kung mapapatunayan nila ang mga activities nila sa ating citizens of Pinoy blogosphere.
alam naman naten talaga yan ate sienna. it’s an open secret. we all long for change. we all ask the government to effect some changes. basahin mo pa mga blogs nang mga yan, puro role model about transparency, responsibility and all the balanced norms of a truly matinong kawntri – yet when it comes to them, nagiging blurry. ba’t ganun? rules always seem to be applicable sa ibang tao but not to them?
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i wonder kung ipakita sa’yo. baka kasi mamaya ang drama na naman eh anong right ng reyna?
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reynz Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
that’s one basic ang instant response. they have to think about their social responsibility to Pinoy blogger like us. “kung walang tinatagao, ba’t itatago?” di ba ganun ang kasabihan? nakataya dun ang credibility nang boung pinoy bloggers at kasama ako. ikaw. tayo. right?
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FS of non-profits are for public consumption. you can request copies from the SEC.
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nina Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
that’s good if it’s for public consumption.
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The Ca t Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
no problem nina, not many know about it especially
if they are not into it.
my comments are meant to inform.
The Ca t´s last blog post..The AHA and the EWW Moments
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nina Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
cat, na-realize ko nga, yong mga corporations di ba nagpu-publish ng FS every year for the public and potential investors
nina´s last blog post..Quotes by Bob Ong
Basta ako, ready kong ipakita ang financial statements ko kay Reyna.
Yun nga lang e wala ako nun.
LOL.
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there are only more than 72,000 non-profit organizations registered with the sEC as of 2008. more than 60,000 of these are NGOs and the rest are the POs which include professional organizations and other community associations.
lately with the pressure because of the anti-money laundering efforts by other governments, the reporting requirements for these types of organizations are given mor e attention.
it is mostly the non-profits whic become conduit for funding of terroristic acts.
this seems to be too much for a small organization to be classified under that category but the bottom-line if this is PRESTIGe.
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reynz Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
in our older discussions – your PRESTIGE – I equate to Amazon’s “first mover” in other words, unahan to have the privilege to awards the best in blogging for Pinoy bloggers – sa totoo lang – honor yon because para ka ngang Amazon being the “first mover” sa internet
unfortunately, di man lang nila nilabhan at kinula ang mga cedula nila if you know what i mean
reynz´s last blog post..4th Podcasting Reynz
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lani Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 2:05 am
Yan ang nkakalungkot Ms. CAT, At diyan na pumapasok sa mga daudang dudang foundations ang mga kinukurakot ng mga nakapwesto sa gobyerno para makaiwas sa money laundering law. Maganda ang pagkakagawa ng ating mga batas sa taxes, ang problema ay implementation at ang mga taong nagpapatupad nito…
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PREStige-
I talked to one of the awardees who included his award in his curriculum vitae. The forein company which is not familiar about the awards, google the name.
They were disappointed.
In the academe, most of papers we submit for performance evaluation as well as for rank promotion.
it is when i discovered that there are “awarding bodies ” which mkae business out of it..
They chose the person to be awarded and either they were aked to pay for the
article that is written for them or are required to sell as many tickets as possible for a sitdown dinner.
the ticket would cost say 100.., the plate is per 40, there is already a profit of 60.
many “buy” this award to embelish their curriculum vitae and this is the kind of awarding bodies that make awards, sampu hindi sampera pero libo ang halaga.
To hold your award with pride, the awarding body should be impeccable.
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reynz Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
well, in my case, i always check: WHO ARE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE AWARDS GIVING BODY and of course na discuss na naten yan dun sa previous entries ko sa PBA
it starts naman there and you begin to ask and look into their independence, conflict of interests and all that.
reynz´s last blog post..4th Podcasting Reynz
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correction: I am watching a movie as I am writing this:
In the academe, most of papers we submit for performance evaluation as well as for rank promotion are scrutinized as to their authenticity. they check the degrees claimed to have been finished abroad if they are not the “Recto type universities” where you can buy doctorates; they check the awarding bodies and also the seminars attended or have been invited as speaker.
the keyword is authenticity..
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reynz Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
hahaha or kung sa US, it’s called “background investigation” which is already a norm. dati nun, parang nakakatakot hahaha ngayon normal na lang sya
reynz´s last blog post..4th Podcasting Reynz
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Hindi naman kasi ako mahilig dyan sa awards awards na ayn eh. Basta nakakapagpasaya ako ng mambabasa oks na ako dun.
Siguro hindi to recognize dahil sa totoo lang yung mga IBA (ayan ha stressed na hindi lahat. Baka may Rockstar at Payaso na naman na magreact) eh wa kwenta.
Ang tingin ko to harvest something nyahaha
harbat lang ng harbat kahit meryenda sa starbucks at palamon ni Bebe Gandanghari patulan hahaha.
Go Go Go PBA organizers. Harbat lang kayo ng Harbat. Sponsors, benefactors, advertiser, basta lahat ng mau-uto, go lang, social climb tapos harbat hahaha
itypecast pati ang mga bloggers sa different levels, 4 to be exact. Para filtered na filtered lang ang makikinabang ng pera pero tatawagin lang natin itong qualified blog marketing so that COMPANIES AND ADVERTISERS WOULD KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT ON BLOGGERS haha.
tapos magnominate uli ng di kilalang blog na kagagawa lang. Tipo bang bukas ang nomination, ngayong gabi gagawin haha. yun panalo na yung mga istayl na ganun. tapos harap sa camera, ismayl and then sabay drama ng “I dont deserve this award”… naks pang Famas.
at matapos tawagin ang pangalan, harbat agad ang trophy at baka may magprotesta hahaha I blog agad ang piktsur. Pose sa malaking tarpaulin na naka pang-burol haha. Tapos pag mag magquestion sayo kahit hindi ikaw, murahin mo tipo bang butangera ka sa gitna ng mga palengkera, astang armalite at machine gun. sabay habi ng kasinungalingan. astig. deserve ang ward haha
yan ganyan dapat ang style. harvest lang ng harvest hangang sa magkaroon uli ng food crisis.
Fleas All RICE mga patay-gutom hahahahaha
Hoy tayo yun hahaha
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Reesie Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
hahaha, good one bluep!!! tawa ako ng tawa.
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reynz Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
given na ang mga hinihingi naten blug – it’s almost otomatically expected out of them, di na nila kelangan nang isang Reyna
reynz´s last blog post..4th Podcasting Reynz
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Just like bluep, hindi din ako after the awards kasi I am not the type of a person seeking for prestige, kahit pa ang mga awards ang maghabol sa akin. Hahaha!! LOL.
My prized awards are my readers – no matter who they are. Basta di sila nagheheckle sa site ko, oks lang kami. Haha.
Masaya na ako na mabigyan ng isang mumunting espasyo dito sa internet – yung espasyo at opportunity na nabigyan ako para ipahayag ang aking mga views and at the same time, makapagshare ng information at magandang discussion sa internet.
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reynz Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
hahaha it’s an “after hours club” alam mo yon? dun mahaba discussion dahil me inuman pa hehehe
reynz´s last blog post..4th Podcasting Reynz
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ang motto ata nila is : Harbat lang ng harbat ng sponsors kivs the social responsibility at transparency na iyan!!
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Silver, PhD Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Pinoy Leche Files!!!!
Hahhahaha….
Did I spoiled your day, peeps???
Hahhaha…
Alam ko na ang nasa isip ni Reesie, isali ko ito sa aking prestigious Pinoy Leche Files. Hahhaha…
Pero this one, pang Reyna Elena Leche Files ito…hahahah…
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Johnonymous Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Yeah, you should file yang mga lecheng yan!
Ang sarap maging barbaric sa mga ganitong kaganapan…
Tang inumin nyo! ‘wag Milo!
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Reesie Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
tama ka silver, i file mo ito kaagad sa leche files mo!!! grrrrrrr
lol@john.
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reynz Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
well, nothings wrong to harbat for the chorva nila di ba? basta ba’t wag na wag kalilimutan ever ang mga social responsibility dahil ngayon pang nasa internet na tayo and even us here sa labas, nakikita at nababasa sila
i know i sound morality trulala ever
but it’s just that! kelangan nilang
ipakita sa mga readers nila na o eto ang chorva namen you know
reynz´s last blog post..4th Podcasting Reynz
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Hi Reynz!
Well, that being discussed gives me another knowledge of how others are made gago. Sadly, again…
As an outsider, I’m stuck into these ideas:
Either the organizers have no SKILLS of doing FR…
Or… have the best WILL in doing kickbacks and rip offs…
Or, SKILLS to rip off or no WILL in doing FR….
Good ideas really goes bad if it’s added some bad will.
My say, SAYANG, WALANG KWENTA at LECHE!
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reynz Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
@Johnonymous,
well di naman siguro, to me for as long as wez akong makita, siempre there’s always the – bakit kaya – question you know. o baka naman wala silang hungry CPA sa group nila? hahaha
reynz´s last blog post..4th Podcasting Reynz
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Volunteered hours are also considered donations. Here they quantify the number of hours to dollar values which they can use to claim as tax deductible.
The new graduates who have no work experience yet are given certifications for volunteered hours which they can claim as work experience in their curriculum vitae.
As to disbursing of donations:
Here in the States, the administrative expenses of operating a non-profit should only take the 20 per cent of the total receipts. That means if the NPO receives 1.00, only 20 cents of that should be spent for the operation and the rest are for the intended projects.
In the Philippines, the per centage is higher. It’s 30 per cent. correct me if i am wrong. I am not talking about the NGO which also receives funding from abroad and the government.
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reynz Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Oo naman, ina-account namen yan, typically pag walang dollar number, ginagamet namen yong minimum wage sa locality, kaso, samen, we use yong rates nang company namen. dito kasi sa (di ko na sasabihin) andaming volunteers (yong iba nga sikat na sikat pa! hahahaha) basta, ganun na lang, pero
Pero tong mga nag OO-JT, binabayaran namen yan ‘Day! mababa lang nga
reynz´s last blog post..4th Podcasting Reynz
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nina Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
kapag ba ganyang NPO – puro volunteers lang? di ka pwede mag hire ng mga tao?
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